00:00:13:23 - 00:00:17:08 INTERVIEWER: Sir, kindly tell me your name and identification. 00:00:18:15 - 00:00:19:25 INTERVIEWEE: I am going to speak in Bengali. 00:00:20:10 - 00:00:22:17 My name is Karri Mohammad Shajahan. 00:00:22:28 - 00:00:25:17 My permanent address is Bishnupur. 00:00:26:03 - 00:00:28:18 Post Office Bordiya. 00:00:28:26 - 00:00:30:13 The upazila and district is Chandpur. 00:00:31:13 - 00:00:37:03 I came to this area as imam in 1993. 00:00:37:21 - 00:00:42:01 Besides working as an imam in various mosques, I also worked as tutor. 00:00:42:01 - 00:00:46:08 And ... I’ve taught in night schools, and mass education in many places. 00:00:47:08 - 00:00:51:21 I worked as a teacher for long time under the mosque-based children’s education system. 00:00:52:06 - 00:00:54:08 Besides these ... 00:00:54:16 - 00:00:58:00 there were some of my teachers who died. 00:00:58:00 - 00:00:59:28 For example, the famous Maulana of Matlab, 00:00:59:28 - 00:01:02:14 Maulana ... Abdul Owadud. 00:01:02:24 - 00:01:04:12 Hafez Abdur Shukkur ... 00:01:04:24 - 00:01:07:11 imam of Matlab Shahi mosques. 00:01:07:11 - 00:01:09:25 The late Maulana Qutubuddin. 00:01:10:03 - 00:01:14:05 After their deaths, those people who came to them ... 00:01:14:09 - 00:01:17:09 People are religious in Bangladesh. 00:01:17:09 - 00:01:18:27 They have faith in religion. 00:01:19:02 - 00:01:24:11 That’s why they go to many hujurs to solve their problems. Such as ”My children don’t study. Please give me the cure.” 00:01:24:14 - 00:01:26:01 “I have pain in my stomach.” 00:01:26:01 - 00:01:27:22 “Kindly give me some holy water.” 00:01:27:29 - 00:01:32:15 Some people say “My son is too naughty. Give me a tabeeze [amulet] for him.” 00:01:32:20 - 00:01:38:21 So, we saw our teachers give these to them and their books are still here. 00:01:38:24 - 00:01:42:07 Now, reading from these books, we are giving as much as we can. 00:01:42:12 - 00:01:46:21 Besides this, which are critical for, like, if a man with stomach pain comes for holy water. 00:01:46:27 - 00:01:49:12 After giving him the holy water, if he vomits, 00:01:49:14 - 00:01:53:01 and looseness starts, then I know that he is suffering from diarrhoea. 00:01:53:01 - 00:01:54:26 Then, I send him directly to the hospital. 00:01:54:28 - 00:01:58:00 Again, if someone comes with chest pain, 00:01:58:00 - 00:02:00:26 then we try to cure him in a religious way. 00:02:00:26 - 00:02:04:12 If we fail, we refer him to the doctor. 00:02:04:12 - 00:02:09:13 This is how we’ve changed our profession jointly. 00:02:09:19 - 00:02:11:29 We have been developing this profession for 24 years. 00:02:11:29 - 00:02:16:28 We are adjusting it step-by-step, to digitalize, to follow digital Bangladesh. 00:02:17:02 - 00:02:18:29 Do you understand what I mean? Yes. 00:02:19:08 - 00:02:21:16 Kindly, can you tell me your age? 00:02:21:16 - 00:02:22:26 My age ... 00:02:23:07 - 00:02:28:03 I was born in 1965. 00:02:28:13 - 00:02:34:07 and this is according to my birth certificate. 00:02:34:07 - 00:02:38:09 According to Bengali calculation, I was born in 1970. 00:02:38:09 - 00:02:42:07 So, according to this, my age is above 50. 00:02:42:15 - 00:02:45:19 Well, this is your real age. Yes, my real age. 00:02:45:28 - 00:02:51:24 So, your home and everything is in Matlab? -Yes, here in Matlab. 00:02:51:26 - 00:02:54:09 So, I want to ask you about Matlab. 00:02:54:09 - 00:02:59:00 When you were a child, or 20 to 22 years ago, 00:02:59:05 - 00:03:02:03 what did you see in Matlab, and what do you see now? 00:03:03:09 - 00:03:08:27 Not only Matlab, but also the area attached to Matlab, were undeveloped. 00:03:09:00 - 00:03:12:00 And before establishing the diarrhoea hospital, 00:03:12:00 - 00:03:17:20 many people in this area, including three of my sisters and one brother, 00:03:17:25 - 00:03:20:01 died suffering from diarrhoea. 00:03:20:07 - 00:03:26:01 And diarrohea had become so much of an epidemic that this region would have been deserted. 00:03:26:01 - 00:03:29:06 That’s why there were only a few people who lived here. 00:03:29:06 - 00:03:33:28 The education rate was low. Roads were not enough. 00:03:34:02 - 00:03:35:13 People worked in the field. 00:03:35:13 - 00:03:38:21 Most of the people of Bangladesh lived their lives on agriculture. 00:03:38:21 - 00:03:43:09 Because of that lifestyle, by changing the agricultural sector, 00:03:43:15 - 00:03:47:12 we are developing this side. 00:03:47:12 - 00:03:50:10 Previously, they cultivated their land using oxen and ploughs. 00:03:50:10 - 00:03:51:06 But now, 00:03:51:06 - 00:03:57:28 they use tractors for cultivation because of technology. 00:03:58:00 - 00:03:59:29 We are thrashing the crops, too. 00:03:59:29 - 00:04:05:14 Before, people cultivated one or two crops in a year. 00:04:05:14 - 00:04:09:15 Now, because of irrigation, we’ve also changed some types of crops. 00:04:09:16 - 00:04:12:14 which has helped to educate our children. 00:04:12:14 - 00:04:14:20 Because a father worked in the field before, 00:04:14:20 - 00:04:16:06 he couldn’t educate his children properly. 00:04:16:06 - 00:04:23:18 As he is financially solvent now, he is sending his children to schools, colleges, and universities to study. 00:04:23:18 - 00:04:28:19 Previously, in Madrasa, the education system was only in the Arabic medium. 00:04:28:19 - 00:04:31:05 Now, the government of Bangladesh, 00:04:31:05 - 00:04:35:12 the daughter of the father of nation, Sheikh Hasina, 00:04:35:12 - 00:04:40:14 before that Begum Khaleda Zia, and before that H. M. Ershad, 00:04:40:14 - 00:04:41:28 and whoever else were in power, 00:04:41:28 - 00:04:46:29 because of them, our education system has changed. 00:04:46:29 - 00:04:48:16 Now our children study, 00:04:48:16 - 00:04:52:09 and do jobs in our country, and abroad too. 00:04:52:09 - 00:04:54:26 Because of going abroad, our country has changed a lot. 00:04:54:26 - 00:04:57:12 Before, the houses were made of straw. 00:04:57:12 - 00:04:59:22 And when it rained, water entered in the room. 00:04:59:22 - 00:05:02:06 As time passed, this house became a tin-shade house. 00:05:02:06 - 00:05:07:16 Later on, when our children realized that they were solvent enough, 00:05:07:16 - 00:05:11:21 our country developed. And as we are working abroad, 00:05:11:21 - 00:05:13:20 The income source is also increasing in our country. 00:05:13:20 - 00:05:16:23 Before, only parents earned, and now children are also employed. 00:05:16:23 - 00:05:19:29 Not only that, their son's wife is also teaching in school now. 00:05:19:29 - 00:05:22:03 Their daughters are also in the teaching profession. 00:05:22:03 - 00:05:24:27 Or working at any other company or NGO 00:05:24:27 - 00:05:27:22 that is a contribution of BRAC. 00:05:27:22 - 00:05:29:26 And many other NGOs. 00:05:29:26 - 00:05:30:24 Because of which, they are now making buildings. 00:05:30:24 - 00:05:32:01 Like an urban area. 00:05:32:01 - 00:05:35:04 Now I can say that Matlab is a suburban area. 00:05:35:04 - 00:05:41:11 It’s our good luck that this remote village has been declared a municipal area. 00:05:41:11 - 00:05:45:25 Besides this, now our Matlab has a Upazila, a diarrhoea hospital, 00:05:45:25 - 00:05:48:22 and some industries are under construction. 00:05:48:22 - 00:05:52:11 This area is connected to Chandpur, Noakhali, Comilla, and Dhaka. 00:05:52:11 - 00:05:55:14 That’s why it has developed so much. 00:05:55:14 - 00:05:57:01 And we are very happy. 00:05:57:01 - 00:05:58:20 Now more than before. 00:05:58:20 - 00:06:02:20 All are happy. All are rich. 00:06:02:20 - 00:06:06:02 We don't want a loan from anyone else. 00:06:06:02 - 00:06:07:21 If we need a loan, we go to an NGO. 00:06:07:21 - 00:06:09:27 We are employed, so we can repay the loan easily. 00:06:09:27 - 00:06:11:17 Before, when we wanted a loan from anyone, 00:06:11:17 - 00:06:13:27 he first asked when you would repay it. 00:06:13:29 - 00:06:15:09 But now, we borrow money from an NGO. 00:06:15:09 - 00:06:17:06 And after working, we repay it. 00:06:17:08 - 00:06:22:23 Our children borrow money from NGOs and banks for going abroad, and after earning, they repay it. 00:06:22:23 - 00:06:27:25 So, we can understand that Bangladesh is developed and a better place to live. 00:06:27:27 - 00:06:29:04 And if you want to know more, 00:06:29:04 - 00:06:30:12 then ask me, 00:06:30:12 - 00:06:32:12 and I’ll answer. 00:06:32:12 - 00:06:33:18 Alright. Alright. 00:06:33:18 - 00:06:40:21 I want to say that, as you said, there is a lot in Matlab now that you didn't see before, and everything has developed. 00:06:40:28 - 00:06:46:06 I want to know something about professions in Matlab. 00:06:46:06 - 00:06:48:04 What did they do before, 00:06:48:04 - 00:06:50:27 and what they do now? For a living? 00:06:50:27 - 00:06:56:29 For their occupation, the people who lived near the river did fishing. 00:06:57:10 - 00:07:00:06 And village people worked in the agricultural sector. 00:07:00:11 - 00:07:04:16 Both Hindu and Muslim people live in this area. 00:07:04:16 - 00:07:11:09 So, for the Hindus, there were blacksmiths, potters, washer-men. 00:07:11:10 - 00:07:17:22 Now, their children are also educated and have developed. 00:07:17:22 - 00:07:19:19 They have changed a lot by profession. 00:07:19:19 - 00:07:21:04 What types of changes? Fishermen, 00:07:21:04 - 00:07:23:22 who were fishermen for generations, 00:07:24:13 - 00:07:25:29 now they are not fishermen. 00:07:26:03 - 00:07:30:12 If they are still fishermen, they use speedboats now instead of boats. 00:07:30:12 - 00:07:32:15 Before, they used boats, and now they use speedboats. 00:07:32:15 - 00:07:36:01 Before, they were fishing only in the river, and now they are fishing in the deep sea. 00:07:36:05 - 00:07:42:03 Before, the fisherman sold their fish at local markets. 00:07:42:03 - 00:07:48:12 Now, they are exporting their fish to foreign markets, like shrimp, 00:07:48:16 - 00:07:55:13 hilsa, coin fish, Chandpur, especially, is the home of hilsha. 00:07:55:13 - 00:07:57:11 and Matlab is the hilsa village. 00:07:57:11 - 00:08:00:17 That’s why hilsa is available worldwide now. 00:08:00:17 - 00:08:03:01 Currently, the price per kilo of hilsa is 3000 taka. 00:08:03:06 - 00:08:06:18 It is rare now, but it was available in the past. 00:08:06:18 - 00:08:11:03 In the case of occupation, those who were farmers, they have brought change in the agricultural sector. 00:08:11:05 - 00:08:16:15 Before, they worked following their elders, and now, they are researching agriculture and getting training. 00:08:16:15 - 00:08:20:07 They are getting training on crops, training on irrigation, 00:08:20:07 - 00:08:23:08 training on jute, and training on many other crops. 00:08:23:08 - 00:08:28:26 Those who lived in remote villages, they have started poultry businesses. 00:08:28:26 - 00:08:33:09 They are doing fishery farming in frowzy ponds. 00:08:33:09 - 00:08:36:15 They have involved themselves in these occupations besides agriculture. 00:08:36:15 - 00:08:42:17 Those who worked abroad, after coming back, they have also started those businesses. 00:08:42:17 - 00:08:44:03 You can see in that house ... 00:08:44:03 - 00:08:46:20 how he made the fish filter. 00:08:46:20 - 00:08:51:17 How he made a filter machine. 00:08:51:17 - 00:08:54:17 Alternating occupations like this, now there is a lot of changes. 00:08:54:17 - 00:08:58:24 I will say, the changes are increasing day-by-day. 00:08:59:16 - 00:09:01:20 There are changes in occupation. 00:09:01:20 - 00:09:05:25 Are there any changes that you see in the economic sector? 00:09:05:25 - 00:09:11:03 Obviously it’s changing. The money supply is increasing day-by-day. 00:09:11:03 - 00:09:16:18 Fathers are working, mothers are working, sons are working ... everybody is working. 00:09:16:18 - 00:09:20:21 Now, Bangladesh is not a poor country like before. 00:09:20:29 - 00:09:26:14 It is now a middle-class country. 00:09:26:27 - 00:09:34:16 When you are a child, how did parents take care of their children? 00:09:34:16 - 00:09:39:12 How did your parents took care of you, and how do parents take care now? 00:09:39:12 - 00:09:41:02 I am telling one by one by myself. 00:09:41:06 - 00:09:46:15 My parents had 11 children. 00:09:47:17 - 00:09:48:29 And my father... 00:09:49:21 - 00:09:53:05 So, my parents have 11 children. 00:09:53:21 - 00:09:56:19 But they couldn’t educate all the children. 00:09:56:27 - 00:09:59:20 Some of them died from various diseases. 00:09:59:20 - 00:10:02:27 And they educated us, those who were still alive. 00:10:02:27 - 00:10:06:21 Now, people are having only one child. 00:10:06:21 - 00:10:11:01 So that we can give them proper educations and various facilities. 00:10:11:01 - 00:10:13:13 At that time, my grandfather had a lots of landed property. 00:10:13:13 - 00:10:15:16 Now, we have only few hundredth of property. 00:10:15:18 - 00:10:19:22 Before, there were a lot of space between one house and another. 00:10:19:22 - 00:10:21:09 Now, only buildings. 00:10:21:09 - 00:10:25:05 Now, people have built four- to five-floor buildings. 00:10:25:05 - 00:10:27:08 As many as they can in the village. 00:10:27:28 - 00:10:33:08 Before, parents only asked their children to learn to read, and sent them to school, madrasa, or mosque, but now, 00:10:33:08 - 00:10:35:11 there are also kindergarten schools. 00:10:35:11 - 00:10:42:15 BRAC schools and many other NGOs are there as well, who are looking after children now. 00:10:52:22 - 00:11:01:07 Now every parent is carefully looking after their children’s education, living, treatment. 00:11:01:07 - 00:11:04:11 I want to say something important ... 00:11:04:11 - 00:11:07:05 All parents are careful with their children. 00:11:07:05 - 00:11:12:16 No one has more than two or three children and they take care of everything. 00:11:12:16 - 00:11:16:02 Bangladesh is a flood affected country. 00:11:16:06 - 00:11:19:07 Different disasters have occurred here. 00:11:19:07 - 00:11:20:21 Floods in Bangladesh. 00:11:20:21 - 00:11:24:14 Bangladesh is like an epidemic country. 00:11:24:14 - 00:11:32:05 So, those with children have the mentality to take them abroad for treatment. 00:11:32:05 - 00:11:35:04 Now, they don’t need to sell their property to go abroad, like before. 00:11:43:14 - 00:11:44:09 Laugh. 00:11:45:12 - 00:11:52:19 Well, let me ask you something about family planning. 00:11:52:19 - 00:11:55:04 What people did in the past, how they did it, and ... 00:11:57:06 - 00:12:01:21 what system they use now, and what’s the difference? 00:12:01:21 - 00:12:06:22 I just said that my parents had 11 children. 00:12:07:11 - 00:12:09:16 My children are not that many. 00:12:09:16 - 00:12:11:10 My family is half of my parents’ family. 00:12:11:24 - 00:12:13:06 I have five members in my family. 00:12:13:07 - 00:12:13:18 Father— 00:12:13:18 - 00:12:14:16 Did this happen due to family planning? 00:12:14:16 - 00:12:15:29 Yes, because of family planning. 00:12:15:29 - 00:12:22:20 My daughter has two daughters and my son has one son. 00:12:22:25 - 00:12:26:29 If we didn’t have family planning, we couldn’t control. 00:12:28:10 - 00:12:34:01 Sir, social communication among people, 00:12:34:01 - 00:12:38:08 to talk and communicate with each other, how was it then, and how is it now? 00:12:40:10 - 00:12:43:03 Previously, people told horror stories, 00:12:44:15 - 00:12:46:10 The story of Gopal Bhar. 00:12:46:10 - 00:12:48:29 And many other stories they used to tell. 00:12:48:29 - 00:12:53:10 But now they don’t. Now people read novels, story books, etc. 00:12:53:10 - 00:12:58:03 With modernization, like TV, fridge. 00:12:58:03 - 00:13:00:20 Then ... 00:13:00:20 - 00:13:01:23 computer ... 00:13:01:24 - 00:13:02:27 laptop ... 00:13:03:03 - 00:13:04:16 They are busy with all these. 00:13:05:02 - 00:13:10:07 Now, no one has time to tell stories. Everything is hand to hand. 00:13:10:11 - 00:13:11:09 What's about communication? 00:13:11:09 - 00:13:18:25 Communication is not like before. It has become narrow now. 00:13:18:25 - 00:13:22:26 Before, people travelled by boat and steamer and had a lot of time. 00:13:22:29 - 00:13:27:13 Now, because of more roads, people use buses, launches, etc. 00:13:27:13 - 00:13:32:03 Besides this, those who can afford it use other means of communication. 00:13:32:07 - 00:13:34:08 The communication system is developing enough. 00:13:35:07 - 00:13:36:25 Then, communication among people ... 00:13:36:25 - 00:13:42:09 like, how people invited others over on occasion before, do they still do that now? 00:13:42:09 - 00:13:46:09 Before, people invited others over by going to their homes and saying “as-salaam-alaikum.” 00:13:46:12 - 00:13:50:05 ”You are invited to our home. Kindly have some food with us.” 00:13:50:08 - 00:13:52:15 Now, he is in Dhaka. 00:13:52:15 - 00:13:54:16 Now, he is out of Bangladesh. 00:13:54:16 - 00:13:55:27 And at present, people do this over a phone call. 00:13:55:27 - 00:13:57:01 “Hello.” 00:13:57:18 - 00:13:58:21 “You come?” 00:13:59:23 - 00:14:01:10 “You are invited to our place.” 00:14:01:20 - 00:14:03:06 “Please come at that time.” 00:14:03:18 - 00:14:08:06 It is much better because of mobile communication. 00:14:08:06 - 00:14:13:08 Before, was necessary to knock at the door. Now, there is no need to knock. We can call them after reaching to their home. 00:14:13:11 - 00:14:14:10 "Hello." 00:14:14:19 - 00:14:15:23 “I am here.” 00:14:16:02 - 00:14:18:11 “You open the door.” 00:14:19:14 - 00:14:27:16 What is the difference of knowledge and experience between then and now? 00:14:27:16 - 00:14:31:04 Previously, people only said those things that they knew. 00:14:31:04 - 00:14:32:23 Now ... 00:14:32:23 - 00:14:38:24 it is a era of science, an era of changes. 00:14:38:28 - 00:14:42:25 People know more than before. 00:14:42:28 - 00:14:45:10 They are saying what they learned. 00:14:45:14 - 00:14:48:01 The rate of education is more than before. 00:14:48:01 - 00:14:50:24 The quality of the education system is more developed than before. 00:14:50:27 - 00:14:52:20 So, intelligence and quality can increase. 00:14:52:20 - 00:14:54:09 This is a machine. 00:14:54:09 - 00:14:57:10 So, it works according to our capacity. 00:14:57:29 - 00:14:59:10 Can I make you understand? 00:15:01:26 - 00:15:06:28 So, as you are giving one type of service, it’s also a kind of treatment. 00:15:07:14 - 00:15:17:02 Is there any difference between the service today in Matlab and before? 00:15:17:02 - 00:15:20:16 And what are the changes in the service today? 00:15:20:16 - 00:15:22:14 There are huge changes in service. 00:15:22:15 - 00:15:26:29 Before I said if someone had belly pain, he should come to me for holy water. 00:15:27:20 - 00:15:28:27 I gave the Holy water. 00:15:28:27 - 00:15:31:10 If I found that it was diarrhoea, 00:15:31:10 - 00:15:34:09 then I sent them directly to the hospital. 00:15:35:12 - 00:15:38:02 I give them service. 00:15:38:02 - 00:15:40:10 Especially when any children cry. 00:15:41:01 - 00:15:42:21 As we are Muslim and ... 00:15:42:22 - 00:15:44:22 the Quran is our religious book. 00:15:44:24 - 00:15:48:15 Every religion has a religious book. 00:15:48:15 - 00:15:50:09 Every religion has priests. 00:15:50:09 - 00:15:52:23 So, we apply the religious system. 00:15:52:25 - 00:15:54:08 Some are healed. 00:15:54:08 - 00:15:56:14 Suppose a baby is crying. 00:15:56:14 - 00:15:58:25 Doctor and parents can’t understand. 00:15:58:26 - 00:16:00:27 then I read the surah Al-Fatiha, 00:16:00:28 - 00:16:02:11 give a blow, 00:16:02:11 - 00:16:03:27 then the child calms down. 00:16:04:15 - 00:16:05:29 If a man can not take any food, 00:16:06:05 - 00:16:07:18 I read surah Al-Fatiha, 00:16:07:18 - 00:16:10:07 and give him food. 00:16:10:07 - 00:16:12:09 He eats and is cured. 00:16:12:09 - 00:16:14:18 But it doesn’t mean that he doesn’t go to a doctor. 00:16:15:05 - 00:16:17:29 It doesn’t mean that they just depend on this thing and don’t go anywhere else. 00:16:18:10 - 00:16:20:02 Just have faith in Allah. 00:16:20:04 - 00:16:21:11 Just have faith in the Quran. 00:16:21:11 - 00:16:22:11 And take this. 00:16:22:12 - 00:16:25:11 And besides this, you can take other treatments too. 00:16:25:11 - 00:16:30:09 We just want your wellbeing and want you to be well soon. 00:16:31:10 - 00:16:35:08 You are in this service, so if I ask you, 00:16:35:19 - 00:16:39:10 you have been involved in this service for 24 years, 00:16:39:17 - 00:16:42:21 so, what type of patient came to you at the beginning, 00:16:42:21 - 00:16:44:21 and what type of patient comes now? 00:16:45:03 - 00:16:50:10 At the beginning, the only patients to come were who had gone to my teachers earlier. 00:16:50:22 - 00:16:53:15 I’ve started this sevice with my teacher recently. 00:16:53:15 - 00:16:56:12 I’m doing my work according to science. 00:16:57:11 - 00:17:00:17 I’m doing my work with the help of science. 00:17:00:19 - 00:17:03:15 I’m giving them only what they need. 00:17:03:17 - 00:17:04:25 According to my religion, 00:17:04:25 - 00:17:09:03 what the Quran and Hadith refers to, 00:17:09:03 - 00:17:10:10 and what my teachers did. 00:17:10:10 - 00:17:12:08 With those instructions, and faith in Allah, we are working. 00:17:12:08 - 00:17:16:09 If you are a doctor, you must have a teacher. 00:17:16:09 - 00:17:19:15 So, I’m doing the same. According to my teacher’s instruction. 00:17:22:16 - 00:17:28:06 When you started it, how many patients were coming, and how many come now? 00:17:28:09 - 00:17:30:13 At the beginning, the number of patients was too much. 00:17:30:13 - 00:17:32:26 Because they trust us. 00:17:33:07 - 00:17:39:06 Now we are dividing this service systematically. 00:17:39:14 - 00:17:42:12 Like, some patients are from this side and some are from that side. 00:17:42:12 - 00:17:44:10 And that’s why the number of patients is less now. 00:17:45:19 - 00:17:53:01 Especially those who are come for belly pain, eye problems, headaches. 00:17:53:01 - 00:17:56:01 They always come to the hujur, thinking that, if we go there, we’ll be cured. 00:17:56:03 - 00:17:58:15 But now there are many hospitals. 00:17:58:25 - 00:18:01:26 Due to development, it has changed a lot. 00:18:01:26 - 00:18:05:06 That’s why their dependency on us decreased. 00:18:05:10 - 00:18:08:19 Therefore, those who are coming to us, we are helping them carefully. 00:18:09:29 - 00:18:13:19 You mean that your patients are decreasing day-by-day? 00:18:13:19 - 00:18:16:29 Now which types of patients are coming? 00:18:16:29 - 00:18:19:13 They are coming with headaches. 00:18:20:13 - 00:18:22:05 Sudden headaches. 00:18:22:20 - 00:18:24:12 So, in our Quran, it says that, 00:18:24:12 - 00:18:26:13 after reading surah Al-Fatiha, 00:18:26:14 - 00:18:27:23 or any ayat, 00:18:27:23 - 00:18:29:20 if we blow to anyone’s forehead, 00:18:29:21 - 00:18:32:24 then it works as medicine. 00:18:33:04 - 00:18:36:21 That doesn’t mean we are saying medicine has no power if Allah doesn’t forgive. 00:18:36:24 - 00:18:40:04 So, being hujurs, we are giving emphasis to Allah. 00:18:40:09 - 00:18:41:25 Due to religious reasons. 00:18:41:25 - 00:18:44:29 That’s why we are blowing as a treatment for headache. 00:18:44:29 - 00:18:48:02 It doesn’t mean that we are beating you with a broom saying you have something with you. 00:18:48:10 - 00:18:49:15 We don’t do this. 00:18:49:20 - 00:18:50:10 Okay. 00:18:50:10 - 00:18:56:11 Well, which type of patients are coming the most: females, or males, or children? 00:18:56:11 - 00:18:57:20 Mainly children. 00:18:58:03 - 00:18:59:09 They come with children. 00:18:59:09 - 00:19:00:09 Is it the same as before? 00:19:00:09 - 00:19:02:19 No. Before, females and males both came. 00:19:03:16 - 00:19:08:09 Now, matured girls are coming more. 00:19:08:18 - 00:19:14:01 They are coming with various problems after visiting various centers and doctors. 00:19:14:01 - 00:19:16:08 Women who have stomach problems, 00:19:16:08 - 00:19:18:11 sexual problems, 00:19:18:11 - 00:19:20:14 or marriage problems, they come here. 00:19:20:14 - 00:19:22:29 I am treating them following the Holy Quran. 00:19:22:29 - 00:19:25:13 The benefit, what they are getting, they know best. 00:19:25:13 - 00:19:26:28 If one got benefits, two more come. 00:19:26:28 - 00:19:31:26 This is normal. That if four patients are cured by a doctor, then that four becomes sixteen. 00:19:32:20 - 00:19:36:01 So if any one gets benefits from me, he brings four more. 00:19:38:04 - 00:19:43:23 Now I want to know from you, as you are giving health service, 00:19:44:01 - 00:19:48:24 if I ask about when you were younger, 20-25 years ago, you were not very old at that time. 00:19:48:24 - 00:19:49:08 if I ask about when you were younger, 20-25 years ago, you were not very old at that time. 00:19:49:08 - 00:19:57:03 What types of good things did you have then and what good things don’t you have now? 00:19:57:03 - 00:19:58:12 I didn’t get you. 00:19:58:12 - 00:20:00:13 I didn’t get you. What was good to you before, 00:20:00:13 - 00:20:02:29 and what’s good now? 00:20:03:09 - 00:20:03:19 00:20:03:19 - 00:20:04:26 Relating everything... 00:20:05:08 - 00:20:07:00 Before, we were ... 00:20:07:00 - 00:20:09:14 Food habits, activities ... 00:20:09:14 - 00:20:12:07 About food habits, generally, we ate rice before. 00:20:12:23 - 00:20:15:01 In the morning, we used to eat puffed rice. 00:20:15:20 - 00:20:19:23 Now that habit has been changed. 00:20:19:23 - 00:20:22:15 Before we were eating everything. 00:20:22:20 - 00:20:27:29 But now, we are eating that which is good for us and for our children. 00:20:28:14 - 00:20:33:03 Beyond that, we used to live our lives normally. 00:20:33:03 - 00:20:37:24 Now, we are maintaining our clothes and dressing according to the occasion. 00:20:37:24 - 00:20:43:07 We are teaching them which dress is fit for school and which is fit for traveling. 00:20:43:15 - 00:20:46:11 This is your daytime dress and this is your night dress. 00:20:46:14 - 00:20:49:05 We are changing our clothes according to the times. 00:20:49:05 - 00:20:51:05 We are also teaching them that if you were to go to school on foot, 00:20:51:05 - 00:20:52:19 you couldn't reach it on time. 00:20:52:19 - 00:20:56:00 Now transportation is developed, so you can use those. 00:20:56:00 - 00:20:59:02 Everything is changed now. 00:20:59:05 - 00:21:00:15 Then what is good now? 00:21:00:15 - 00:21:03:27 Now, the communications system is good. 00:21:03:27 - 00:21:05:19 They are eating nutritious food. 00:21:05:19 - 00:21:08:04 Before, people went to the doctor after eating. 00:21:08:04 - 00:21:11:07 But now, they think twice before eating something. 00:21:11:07 - 00:21:12:14 Okay. 00:21:12:14 - 00:21:15:04 So, do you want to say that food habits are better than before? 00:21:15:04 - 00:21:17:10 Yes, good, but we are facing some formalin issues, too. 00:21:18:06 - 00:21:20:13 They mix formalin with everything. Mangos mixed with formalin,. 00:21:20:13 - 00:21:23:04 Apples mixed with formalin. 00:21:23:04 - 00:21:24:13 Fish mixed with formalin. 00:21:24:13 - 00:21:25:24 Vegetables mixed with formalin. 00:21:25:24 - 00:21:27:19 That's why people have strokes, I think. 00:21:27:19 - 00:21:29:26 Before, if someone stroked, people said that he might have been possessed by a ghost, fell down, and died. 00:21:29:26 - 00:21:31:26 Before, if someone stroked, people said that he might have been possessed by a ghost, fell down, and died. 00:21:31:26 - 00:21:32:21 Before, if someone stroked, people said that he might have been possessed by a ghost, fell down, and died. 00:21:32:21 - 00:21:33:17 Before, if someone stroked, people said that he might have been possessed by a ghost, fell down, and died. 00:21:33:17 - 00:21:35:14 Now, everyone knows what really happened. 00:21:36:00 - 00:21:37:26 Now they don’t think like that. 00:21:37:29 - 00:21:39:18 00:21:39:18 - 00:21:42:20 Had people of the past faced any problems? 00:21:42:20 - 00:21:43:25 Yes, they had. 00:21:43:27 - 00:21:44:22 What were they? 00:21:44:22 - 00:21:47:23 The transportation system was not good enough. 00:21:47:23 - 00:21:52:08 They faced a problem if unable to go anywhere. Now it is good. 00:21:52:08 - 00:21:53:27 People didn’t have enough food. 00:21:53:27 - 00:21:55:09 They had only one thing to eat. 00:21:55:09 - 00:22:02:12 They had only mangos and guava, but now there are apples, grapes, etc. 00:22:02:12 - 00:22:06:16 They are getting various types of fruits, now. And if someone comes from abroad, they bring fruits too. 00:22:06:16 - 00:22:09:11 They bring milk, cookies in boxes. 00:22:09:11 - 00:22:13:17 But before, they only had puffed rice, lentils, etc., to eat. 00:22:13:17 - 00:22:15:04 The situation has changed. 00:22:15:29 - 00:22:23:07 Then they don’t have problems now? 00:22:23:07 - 00:22:25:16 Obviously they have problems. Life means problems. 00:22:25:16 - 00:22:27:01 Life means struggle. 00:22:27:02 - 00:22:28:06 It’s natural to have problems. 00:22:28:06 - 00:22:29:10 What kind of problems are there now? 00:22:29:10 - 00:22:32:02 Now, the main problem is ... 00:22:32:06 - 00:22:34:17 people ... 00:22:34:22 - 00:22:38:01 create problems intentionally. 00:22:38:21 - 00:22:42:24 Overeating is one of the problems. Whether he eats less or more, he dies. 00:22:43:03 - 00:22:46:07 Especially, children don’t want to eat. 00:22:46:07 - 00:22:47:27 You have to bring me that. 00:22:48:02 - 00:22:51:20 I don’t have apples in my house. If my child wants apples, how can I give? 00:22:51:25 - 00:22:54:21 If my child wants to drink milk, I don’t have a cow at my house. 00:22:54:21 - 00:22:56:21 I am not able to buy it either. 00:22:56:21 - 00:22:58:23 Those are the problems. 00:22:58:25 - 00:22:59:29 Besides this, 00:22:59:29 - 00:23:05:03 Political problems are the biggest issue in our country. 00:23:05:14 - 00:23:07:25 And in families ... 00:23:08:19 - 00:23:10:27 maintaining children is another fact. 00:23:10:28 - 00:23:14:03 And in our society, we are a problem to each other, too. 00:23:14:06 - 00:23:22:01 The higher authority is giving the solution to these problems. 00:23:22:01 - 00:23:24:01 That’s how things are changing, day-by-day. 00:23:25:08 - 00:23:29:21 So, I can tell that the changes have been good and bad too between now and then. 00:23:29:21 - 00:23:30:23 So much. 00:23:30:23 - 00:23:39:16 If I ask you about your family, what good things do you expect in future? 00:23:40:25 - 00:23:44:18 When I started my study in Arabic, 00:23:44:25 - 00:23:51:21 then I also learned Bengali and English with the help of my family. 00:23:51:21 - 00:23:57:26 As my parents wanted, I went to college. 00:23:57:26 - 00:24:00:20 And from madrasa, I achieved the same degree. 00:24:00:20 - 00:24:03:01 I’m equal in both mediums. 00:24:03:15 - 00:24:09:08 The biggest change of my life is that before, I was only an imam of a mosque. 00:24:10:04 - 00:24:12:29 But now, I am doing business besides that. 00:24:13:00 - 00:24:14:23 I am giving health services to the people. 00:24:14:29 - 00:24:16:27 And giving two tuitions also. 00:24:17:07 - 00:24:20:11 And I am establishing firms at home. 00:24:20:12 - 00:24:24:09 I am trying to make my life better than other people’s. 00:24:24:09 - 00:24:27:26 As you meet with people, your habit will change. 00:24:27:28 - 00:24:32:04 I have traveled many places, as I deliver religious speeches, 00:24:32:04 - 00:24:33:13 I saw at that time. 00:25:47:15 - 00:25:50:19 Reyad was talented from childhood. 00:25:51:06 - 00:25:55:20 He knows when and how to take the interview. 00:25:55:28 - 00:25:58:02 That’s why I’m in a fix. 00:25:58:24 - 00:26:03:01 I'm thankful to him because he helped me. 00:26:03:29 - 00:26:07:21 I liked it. It’s needed. 00:26:22:08 - 00:26:27:19 You have met with many people? Like shopkeepers, fisherman, washerman? 00:26:27:19 - 00:26:28:29 Yes. All types of people. 00:26:28:29 - 00:26:30:07 Only I was left. 00:26:32:20 - 00:26:33:19 There are many. 00:26:35:04 - 00:26:39:11 Compare all the interviews. 00:26:39:28 - 00:26:41:10 And tell Reyad ... 00:26:41:22 - 00:26:43:23 to let me know how mine compared. 00:26:47:19 - 00:26:49:17 There must be something good, better, best. 00:26:49:21 - 00:26:51:29 And there is something other than these. 00:27:30:29 - 00:27:33:06 Let’s start. Okay, start. 00:27:33:26 - 00:27:34:23 So ... 00:27:34:29 - 00:27:38:21 What good things do you expect in your life? 00:27:39:10 - 00:27:41:12 I have almost reached at the end of my life. 00:27:41:12 - 00:27:45:04 But I want good for my children. I admitted them into Daffodil University. 00:27:45:10 - 00:27:48:13 The chairman of Daffodils, 00:27:48:17 - 00:27:50:28 Mr. Sabur Khan, is my nephew. 00:27:50:28 - 00:27:52:11 My elder sister-in-law’s son. 00:27:52:23 - 00:27:57:05 My family is well settled, conscious from the beginning. 00:27:58:05 - 00:28:01:17 My wife is backdated, but she is very alert. 00:28:01:22 - 00:28:08:18 So, I brought up my children in the way of Islam and Arabic. 00:28:08:18 - 00:28:16:25 And I also have a laptop, TV, and computer in my house. 00:28:17:07 - 00:28:18:19 My children don’t face any problems with their studies. 00:28:18:19 - 00:28:21:26 And I have given a laptop to my school. 00:28:21:26 - 00:28:25:07 A computer that was given by Daffodil International University. 00:28:25:10 - 00:28:29:08 Already, everybody wants some change of me. 00:28:29:19 - 00:28:35:19 Otherwise ... through professional knowledge and experience, they want some changes. 00:28:35:21 - 00:28:38:18 And they are also considering what more they will get if they cast me. 00:28:38:18 - 00:28:40:07 You have got an example today. 00:28:40:28 - 00:28:43:12 You have told us about some good things, 00:28:43:12 - 00:28:51:14 but sometimes we have to face some bad things too, 00:28:51:14 - 00:28:52:19 which are unexpected. 00:28:52:19 - 00:28:58:22 So, do you think you or your family will face any bad things in future? 00:28:59:14 - 00:29:06:29 Families will face some problems if they don’t follow the instructions. 00:29:06:29 - 00:29:09:00 Then, it will create a problem. 00:29:09:06 - 00:29:13:19 Another thing is mobile phones. 00:29:14:00 - 00:29:17:06 The technology they are using, 00:29:17:10 - 00:29:21:25 it’s not helping. Rather, it’s destroying. 00:29:21:25 - 00:29:23:25 My daughter, for example, 00:29:23:25 - 00:29:25:12 I could not educate her properly. 00:29:25:12 - 00:29:27:21 Because of mobile phones, my daughter got married without completing her studies. 00:29:28:04 - 00:29:29:28 My son also got involved in a relationship ... 00:29:29:29 - 00:29:31:28 after going to the university. 00:29:32:03 - 00:29:33:23 He also got married there. 00:29:33:28 - 00:29:37:02 If this happens every time ... 00:29:37:02 - 00:29:43:10 then the technology is not doing good. 00:29:44:07 - 00:29:46:04 That's why people attempt suicide ... 00:29:46:11 - 00:29:48:13 have accidents, etc. 00:29:48:15 - 00:29:49:12 That’s it. 00:29:49:27 - 00:29:53:08 If Allah blesses our family, 00:29:53:12 - 00:29:56:25 we will not face any problems. 00:29:57:01 - 00:29:59:26 Good people get in trouble also. 00:29:59:26 - 00:30:04:03 Today I am good, but if Allah wants, I could be in trouble tomorrow. 00:30:04:21 - 00:30:06:12 May Allah bless us. 00:30:07:04 - 00:30:11:19 Our country is experiencing many changes day-by-day. 00:30:12:25 - 00:30:19:20 If this continues, what do you think is going to happen in future? 00:30:19:20 - 00:30:21:26 Is it going to be bad or good? 00:30:23:00 - 00:30:25:07 I will say not too much will be bad. 00:30:25:07 - 00:30:28:05 The Bangabandhu Satellite launched, 00:30:28:19 - 00:30:31:25 so there will not be old things. 00:30:31:25 - 00:30:34:27 Now, what people see, they believe, and take action. 00:30:35:14 - 00:30:37:17 So, I may say, long live Bangladesh. 00:30:37:20 - 00:30:42:05 As well as the people of Bangladesh. 00:30:42:10 - 00:30:43:29 And all of us. 00:30:44:01 - 00:30:48:15 I will say one thing that you have asked. 00:30:48:24 - 00:30:51:04 If Bangladesh ... 00:30:51:04 - 00:30:52:27 reaches its target, 00:30:52:29 - 00:30:57:03 Bangladeshis won’t need go to Oxford to study. 00:30:57:06 - 00:31:01:06 Foreigners will come to Bangladesh to study. We will get this opportunity here, I hope. 00:31:01:08 - 00:31:05:16 Today they are making video footage. 00:31:05:17 - 00:31:08:01 One day, our children will go abroad 00:31:08:01 - 00:31:10:26 and take their interviews, too. 00:31:10:27 - 00:31:12:02 This is the reality. 00:31:12:13 - 00:31:17:14 We have been ... 00:31:18:25 - 00:31:27:00 Bangladesh has been helping other countries by sending our military throughout the world. 00:31:27:00 - 00:31:32:20 Our children will help them just like this in eduction, communication, etc. 00:31:32:26 - 00:31:40:03 I am not denying that since icddr,b came to Bangladesh, we have been benefited. 00:31:40:25 - 00:31:43:17 And technological equipment ... 00:31:43:19 - 00:31:45:07 is coming from abroad. 00:31:45:13 - 00:31:49:29 Bangladesh is not self-sufficient yet. 00:31:50:03 - 00:31:52:11 But Bangladesh will shine. 00:31:52:11 - 00:31:55:11 One day it will be a developed country. 00:31:55:22 - 00:31:59:23 Then, people will not come to me like this. 00:32:00:28 - 00:32:06:29 You said many things about what is good. 00:32:07:22 - 00:32:13:18 What do you think is bad for our society? 00:32:13:20 - 00:32:14:29 Harmful is yaba. 00:32:14:29 - 00:32:16:03 Harmful is alcohol. 00:32:16:03 - 00:32:17:13 Harmful is ... 00:32:17:13 - 00:32:19:29 [pornographic] video. 00:32:20:15 - 00:32:23:23 All these things. 00:32:23:24 - 00:32:28:00 Abuses of the mobile phone ... 00:32:28:20 - 00:32:30:22 Which are getting into the schools. 00:32:30:25 - 00:32:38:04 Some days ago, I read in the newspaper, and watched on TV, 00:32:38:10 - 00:32:46:15 To prevent the younger generation from going down the wrong path, 00:32:46:15 - 00:32:49:18 many countries limited their mobile users. 00:32:49:25 - 00:32:55:03 Because of the abuse of the mobile phone, Bangladesh is heading towards deterioration. 00:32:55:03 - 00:32:58:08 The more they are developing, the more they are heading towards their downfall. 00:32:59:05 - 00:33:00:08 This is the way? 00:33:00:08 - 00:33:01:10 Yes. 00:33:01:10 - 00:33:06:13 Besides this, do you think anything else happened, or will happen? 00:33:06:23 - 00:33:11:06 That can happen to any of us, or to the country? 00:33:12:10 - 00:33:18:22 If the technological facts come to us, and if we believe in them, 00:33:18:27 - 00:33:20:17 then we will have some changes. 00:33:20:21 - 00:33:25:10 But if we remain in the past, and don’t accept technology, 00:33:25:12 - 00:33:26:29 then we can’t be advanced. 00:33:26:29 - 00:33:29:15 Then we will face disaster. 00:33:30:28 - 00:33:33:26 Let’s talk about your service. Sure. 00:33:33:26 - 00:33:36:10 As you are serving the people, patients come, 00:33:36:20 - 00:33:43:21 so I want to know what type of service do you give them? 00:33:44:15 - 00:33:49:18 I am giving them holy water, purified with the words of the Quran. 00:33:50:04 - 00:33:57:25 It could fall from his hand on the road. 00:33:58:00 - 00:34:00:07 So, I give him this. 00:34:00:10 - 00:34:02:29 This is liquid jafran. 00:34:04:08 - 00:34:06:13 I write on the paper with this. 00:34:07:11 - 00:34:10:01 He can take this paper home. 00:34:10:07 - 00:34:12:20 The water I give him, he can use for one day only. 00:34:12:20 - 00:34:14:24 But with this paper, he can purify by putting this paper in the water, 00:34:14:24 - 00:34:18:28 he can purify by putting it in the water, 00:34:18:28 - 00:34:22:15 and use it like a medicine, and after two to three times, he got benefit. 00:34:22:15 - 00:34:23:28 He gets the benefits. 00:34:24:14 - 00:34:27:18 What else we do is ... 00:34:27:19 - 00:34:30:14 C-section is happening now. 00:34:30:29 - 00:34:33:18 This is a gift from Allah called Maryam flower. 00:34:34:08 - 00:34:37:05 This is good at the time of a C-section. 00:34:37:18 - 00:34:40:03 If we soak this flower in water, 00:34:40:03 - 00:34:45:02 and make the water pure with words from the Quran. 00:34:45:02 - 00:34:47:23 Then, after drinking the water, we Muslims believe 00:34:47:23 - 00:34:50:07 that the delivery will be normal. 00:34:50:07 - 00:34:51:05 But ... 00:34:51:10 - 00:34:55:26 if it shows in the ... 00:34:55:26 - 00:34:59:16 the ultrasonogram that the baby’s condition is abnormal, 00:34:59:16 - 00:35:01:00 then this won’t work. 00:35:01:02 - 00:35:05:22 Then, a C-section is must. 00:35:06:02 - 00:35:09:26 Sometimes a children died inside the womb within two to three months. 00:35:09:28 - 00:35:17:04 If the mother drank the water of this flower, and used it on her body, then the child wouldn’t die. 00:35:17:04 - 00:35:19:18 A sentence from the Quran ... 00:35:19:18 - 00:35:25:01 The devil has prevalence all over the world, but even he can’t harm. 00:35:25:01 - 00:35:26:04 Besides these, 00:35:26:04 - 00:35:32:12 my master gave me some books, 00:35:32:12 - 00:35:34:23 which follow the Quran. 00:35:34:23 - 00:35:39:01 Everything that I give is related to the Quran. 00:35:39:01 - 00:35:43:21 And I treat people in the way of this book and from this book. 00:35:43:21 - 00:35:50:08 Besides these, we are giving this ... 00:35:50:08 - 00:35:54:15 For children with a habit of running away. 00:35:54:15 - 00:35:55:26 No need to bind them. 00:35:55:26 - 00:35:58:29 If you apply this, 00:35:58:29 - 00:36:01:11 he will not run away from anywhere. 00:36:01:24 - 00:36:03:08 We are giving these things. 00:36:03:11 - 00:36:06:29 If someone is involved in a case of law enforcement, 00:36:07:07 - 00:36:17:06 this dua will help him to win in the case. 00:36:17:06 - 00:36:26:24 If he is really innocent, 00:36:27:03 - 00:36:30:08 the advocate will work by his side. 00:36:30:08 - 00:36:38:00 We believe in Allah and the way of rusul. 00:36:38:00 - 00:36:41:09 And follow the instructions of our masters when we are doing this. 00:36:43:13 - 00:36:45:13 [unknown] [unknown] 00:36:45:18 - 00:36:48:25 This bottle is big but the thing is small, 00:36:50:09 - 00:36:55:23 And there are things called “musk” and “saffron.” 00:36:55:24 - 00:36:58:27 We have these things that we are giving. 00:37:00:27 - 00:37:02:19 And you are helping? And we are helping. 00:37:02:19 - 00:37:14:03 You help people. So, do you take money in return for help? 00:37:14:03 - 00:37:18:25 I don’t take extra money. This ink is very expensive. 00:37:19:13 - 00:37:23:05 The musk, which can be found only inside a deer’s belly, is very expensive. 00:37:23:05 - 00:37:29:00 They are only asked to pay for the cost of the writing. 00:37:29:00 - 00:37:31:21 I don’t take five to ten thousand. 00:37:31:25 - 00:37:35:16 I don’t know what others say. 00:37:35:16 - 00:37:37:16 I’m a solvent person. 00:37:37:16 - 00:37:39:19 You can ask them. 00:37:39:19 - 00:37:46:04 They only pay the cost of the ink. 00:37:46:04 - 00:37:50:06 That’s why I’m happy. As I said, I’m solvent. 00:37:50:08 - 00:37:53:05 I have nothing else. I just want to know the fees. 00:37:53:05 - 00:37:55:26 Some people give me 100 and some 200. 00:37:55:26 - 00:37:56:27 Not more than that? 00:37:56:27 - 00:37:58:25 Not more than that. 00:37:58:25 - 00:38:05:24 Some diseases take a long time. 00:38:05:25 - 00:38:07:24 Then how much you take? 00:38:07:28 - 00:38:09:24 In these cases, they buy the medicines themselves. 00:38:10:04 - 00:38:13:27 I just write down what they need and they bring that in with them. 00:38:14:06 - 00:38:20:11 Like, if I ask them to take saffron, they buy it. 00:38:20:11 - 00:38:23:08 The people who live outside Bangladesh 00:38:23:08 - 00:38:24:21 buy the products from outside. 00:38:25:06 - 00:38:28:15 But the local people who are not wealthy, I give it to them. 00:38:28:15 - 00:38:32:22 And the money they give me, I take it and don’t argue. 00:38:32:22 - 00:38:40:25 I take what’s needed for me, and the extra money I donate to masjids and madrasahs. 00:38:42:08 - 00:38:48:16 Do any of your patients come again and again but not get well? 00:38:48:28 - 00:38:50:17 Are there any claims like that? 00:38:50:17 - 00:38:51:28 Yes, there are claims like this. 00:38:51:28 - 00:38:53:12 Not everyone is cured. 00:38:54:02 - 00:38:55:25 Not everyone is cured. 00:38:56:26 - 00:39:00:07 Let’s say ten people come to me. 00:39:00:07 - 00:39:02:29 Of them, eight will get well while two remain the same. 00:39:03:22 - 00:39:05:16 About five percent. 00:39:05:23 - 00:39:07:10 The cure is given by Allah. 00:39:07:10 - 00:39:08:22 Allah does everything. 00:39:09:00 - 00:39:10:09 From where did you get all these things? 00:39:10:27 - 00:39:13:05 I got it from the shops. 00:39:13:24 - 00:39:19:05 Every medicine can be bought from shops. There is a big shop near Matlab market. 00:39:19:11 - 00:39:20:13 In Lakshmipur, 00:39:20:22 - 00:39:23:08 there is also a big shop. 00:39:23:08 - 00:39:25:22 This is available only in a few fixed shops. 00:39:26:17 - 00:39:29:04 Wholesalers bring them and shops buy from them. 00:39:29:07 - 00:39:30:22 It doesn’t mean that I do this 00:39:30:22 - 00:39:32:10 because I am a maulana. 00:39:32:20 - 00:39:35:03 An ordinary person, if he is wise, 00:39:35:03 - 00:39:40:28 and if he believes in Islam and Allah, if he gives these things too, then one can benefit from this. 00:39:40:28 - 00:39:42:06 Even you can give. 00:39:42:19 - 00:39:44:06 I just came today and he is taking this. 00:39:44:06 - 00:39:47:17 If you saw after getting home that your son doesn’t follow your instructions, 00:39:47:20 - 00:39:49:27 that you couldn’t feed him any medicine, 00:39:49:27 - 00:39:51:06 and you didn’t know what to do, 00:39:51:06 - 00:39:54:24 you could read surah Al-Fatiha and bless your son, and say, “you are a good boy,” 00:39:54:24 - 00:39:57:18 "may Allah bless my son," then he will come back. 00:39:57:18 - 00:40:03:00 No medicine can do this job. 00:40:03:00 - 00:40:06:05 But this can be done by this. 00:40:06:05 - 00:40:08:01 That’s mostly why people visit me.